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[09.04.06. 1:04] rebeka rokifeller: ok, and here is the dilthey line i told i guess, szellemtörténet, we had to read these things at the uni... it is again in german, i dont find the english version http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geisteswissenschaft

[09.04.06. 1:06] nyúl: :)

[09.04.06. 12:02] nyúlszakszervezet: a rather theoretical, maybe even not so important detail to our research:

the distinction between PHANTASY and PHANTASMA. phantasy= an identifyable function of imagining things. a képesség/faehigkeit, which is in all of us and we can develop it and exercise it.

More interesting is maybe phantasma (Lacan used it a lot), which is the representation of an object in our mind. it is a phantasy but it is also the way this object really appears in the structural order of the world, so that means it is also reality. or more precisely the imaginary as part of the reality. so for me for example it is not so much my phantasies, which are interesting, but rather the phantasmas we leave in.

I think in our project the most obvious phantasma is the air bank/or ghost bank: it exists, because it brings the whole project into move: we open a space, we create a kind of theory, we make a performance etc. but it is not just a phantasy, an imaginary structure or so, because for example the way the credit sytem funtions or the way we negotiate with our ghosts are real examples for an air bank. and also if people get together and share things and thoughts it is also a real example for the same structure.